Thanks for yr views.It will be useful if our group discusses this issue.I had taken up this subject with the Parliamentary Standing Committee chairman and he wanted the publci toa gitate on this issue so that the Committee could take up the issue.When teh new Parliament covnenes I would like to revive this.Please ask yr frineds and relatvies to share their experience.Narendra
2009/3/27 Narendran A <naren_vna@yahoo.com >
One thing i learnt.Good or bad its better to go for Government companies as far as investment goes.Best regardsNarrenSubject: Re: [prpoint] Hippocratic Oath or Hypocratic Oath
To: prpoint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 8:35 AM
Dear Surkund,Happy Ugadi.Glad you have taken this discussion.When I contacts about 100 persons before making my presentation at Hyd , 99% percetn ha done or the other native experience to tell me about private health care facitlities. Only narayan hridayalay in Blr was mentioned as transparent facility.Thanks, Look forward to other contributions. narendra
2009/3/27 Shivshankar Surkund <snsurkund@yahoo. com>
Hi there,
My experience has been very bad/poor in most of the so called BIG/Reputed hospitals. Unecessary tests/checks ups are conducted to inflate the billing or provide work to imported equipment. Doctors, who even do not touch the patient, charge visiting fees - almost every day. when the patient is asleep, he is woken up jst to ask 'how are you to-day' to get the fees.
The so called 'dietician',did not know that a patient who is suffereing from severe piles problem, should not be given 'papaya'. Prescrited treatment is not givenin time, under the pretext, that there is 'emergency' in the ward.
Even while billing, for their delay, one extra days room rent is charged, for no fault of the patient.
Recently I had to undergo a major brain surgery - costing rs.5.00lacs. The mediclaim (rs.2.00 lacs) was declined on the ground that the policy covered only BP and hospital had indicated 'hypertension'.
Now I have come to know that the 'outsourced' medi-claim agencies are paid on the basis of 'claims declined' or not settled.
There was a case in Mumbai's Lilawati hospital, where a patient, who slipped from stair case andhad a minor sprain. He was made to undergo several tests in 2 days amounting to rs.2.00 lacs. when his son, a surgeon abroad, came to see his ailing father, got a shock and threatened to sue the hospital - result all bills were cancelled.
Getting justice in india is a not only delayed, but on many occasions it is denied too.
s.n.surkund
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, narendra None <sunarendra@gmail. com> wrote:
From: narendra None <sunarendra@gmail. com>
Subject: [prpoint] Hippocratic Oath or Hypocratic Oath
To: prpoint@yahoogroups .com
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 1:06 AM
Friends: Two years back Hyderabad Chapter had invited me to speak on the image of private health care in India.Based on info shared in public space by specialists who had served private 5* health centers I had said that high paid medical specialists are required to subject patients to unwarranted medical procedures and tests and there was no accountability and when medical mishaps occur in such places, there is no transparent investigation. Such practices have placed the reputation oof India as a one of the centers of health care and affecting medical tourism.
I am recalling this today becasue this morning a close relative was rushed to one of the well known private medical facitlies in Bangalore as an emergency.The thoughts of the realtives and friends assempled or later informed about the news,the first cocern was not about whether the patient would get top quality care and would be treated back to health, but about was not about whether the patient would be subjected to unwarranted medical procedures and the consequential cost burden on the close realtives who would foot the bill.
This was a spontaneous reaction of almost everyone who visited the patient in the facility as well as those who spoke on phone.There was unviersal agreement that the patient should be moved out as soon as possible to a facility that treats patients with more transparency, especially in terms of billing.Sucha reaction is associated not with one or the other big brand names in private healthc are but with almost all of them.
A World bank report on Public health care in India published about 4 years back estiamted that about 5% of India's population sinks below poverty level every year due to private health costs.as we all know the Government is putting in place polcies encouraging more and more privatisation of health care.A rand Corproations tudy of US health at one time estiamted that the nexus between Phama Industry,Health Insurance and medical profession was costing America upwards of $20 billion in avoidable medical procedures/tests/ medicines. This was when $:Re exchange rate was Rs 6.50.
What can our Group do to change the reality of this so that reality and perception match?
What are the memebrs experience in this filed?What have you heard from freinds and relatvies about private health care facilties?
Thanks for yr attention.S. narendra
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