Saturday, November 20, 2010

Re: [prpoint] Re: Debate: Why blame only politicians? What about officials, corporates and lobbyists?

 

Dear Sri Srinivasan
 
As you were observing why cannot all the PR bodies, Press, Media, Organisations in Communications like that of ABCI, Personalities like Infosys Murthy, other pure celebreties join together like a Forum and start a crusade than issuing statements the ink of which would dry up soon. Dont you feel some great sacrifices have to be made by atleast few real patriots though the movement will take its own time. Even now hidden lacs of crores by way of corruption with many super Constitutional authoriy holding persons. It is high time but possible to initiate a change in the country.
 
Regards
P.B.Raghavendra Rao


--- On Sat, 20/11/10, Prime Point Srinivasan <prpoint@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Prime Point Srinivasan <prpoint@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [prpoint] Re: Debate: Why blame only politicians? What about officials, corporates and lobbyists?
To: prpoint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 20 November, 2010, 2:11 PM

 
dear friends

As more and more documents are getting released from different sources, the media, corporates and public relations industry needs to introspect themselves to eradicate the unethical practises.

More than anything else, I am greatly shocked over the way Tata Group has given 'Tata - bye bye' to the values and ethics.  In all my lectures and writings, I used to quote only Tata for their values and ethics.  Now that the close  association of Nira Radia with Tata Group have come out openly, through the conversations of Ratan Tata and Nira Radia, I am under great shock. I could not believe this.  I am asking, "You too Tata...". Till now  Tata Group or Ratan Tata have not denied the conversation.  For the great admirers of visionary like JRD Tata like many of us, it is highly painful.  

Same way, the high moral preachers like Barkha Dutt and Vir Singhi have also supported Nira Radia in her 'tainted' operations.  

I am not greatly surprised over the conversations with Raja, Kanimozhi and other DMK leaders.  Even way back in 1970s, Justice Sarkaria has given them a certificate that DMK can do 'scientific corruption'.  What has surprised me most was, how the so called 'ethical' journalists and the 'ethical' Corporate giants got associated with this mega scam.

As I wrote earlier during CWG scam, every crisis gives us some learnings and lessons.  The behaviour of few people has tainted the entire profession of media, corporates and PR/PA.

Appeal to all professional bodies (Media, Corporates and PR)

Now that we have learnt bitter lesson, may i appeal. to media bodies like Press Clubs and other PR bodies like Public Relations Council of India, Public Affairs Forum in Delhi, Public Relations Society of India, Public Relations Council of India, Association of Business Communicators of India, Global Forum for Public Relations  to jointly or individually give an open statement upholding ethics and values in the communication profession.  Now it is time, they also take further steps to dissociate themselves from the unscrupulous professionals.

Through this mail, I also appeal to all corporates, to look at the credentials of your consultants.  Do not resort to 'short cut'  and 'quick fix' solutions.  We have many many learned professionals in this country.  I appeal to CII, NASSCOM,  and FICCI also to make out a statement upholding ethics and values and condemning unethical routes.

Let us watch how many bodies accept our appeal?

Srinivasan
Prime Point
91766 50273

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:46 PM, P B Raghavendra Rao <pbraghavendrarao@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Dear Sri Suprotim Mukherjee
 
You have supplied wonderful information and going through the same  my 'mental fuse' is off' and dazed for a while but thought how shamelessly persons and personalities from industries, beauracracy, plolitical circles, media and worse of allthe  so called blessed PR fraternity are involved collectively in the scam/s. What else than it is a national shame, national tragedy and historical scam ever imprinted in the folios of the democratic Indian history. Can it be called as "sab chor hai, gaddar hai, besharam hai aur desh ko behane vale hain" !
P.B.Raghavendra Rao
(Hyderabad), camp; Pune

--- On Fri, 19/11/10, Suprotim Mukherjee <suprotim@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Suprotim Mukherjee <suprotim@yahoo.com>
Subject: [prpoint] Re: Debate: Why blame only politicians? What about officials, corporates and lobbyists?
To: prpoint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 19 November, 2010, 11:35 PM


 
Hi

Click and read the link below to understand how some of our best-known
mediapersons and "PR practitioners" helped Raja in his nefarious activities.

http://indiasreport.com/magazine/data/the-radia-papers-raja-tata-ambani-connection/

Is this what PR is evolving into?

Your comments please...without fear or favour.

Suprotim Mukherjee

--- In prpoint@yahoogroups.com, Narendran A <naren_vna@...> wrote:
>
> Friends
>
> The website of Open magazine crashed in the morning as soon as people came to know that it has exclusive audio conversation between Ms. Nira Radia and Barka Dutt, Vir Singhi and Ratan Tata
>
> In this situation, where the online medium is overflowing with criticism, links being pasted in FB,Twitter and other forums. What steps can be taken to avoid further damage to the journalists and Ratan Tata.
>
> The information i wish to seek is purely on PR perspective.
>
> Best regards
> Narren
>
>
>
> --- In prpoint@yahoogroups.com, Prime Point Srinivasan <prpoint@> wrote:
> >
> > dear friends
> >
> > Last evening, I wrote about Nira Radia and her association with reputed
> > organisations like Tata Group and CII. I also questioned, as to why, they
> > were continuing to engage scam tainted professional? I also mentioned that
> > besides politicians, corporates, lobbyists and officials have also played
> > a greater role in this mega scam.
> >
> > To my surprise, today afternoon, the entire social media has been flooded
> > with the audio tapes of Nira Radia with Burkha Dutt, Vir Singhvi, Rattan
> > Tata, Minister Raja, released by 'Open Magazine'. Within few minutes, the
> > site http://openthemagazine.com got crashed due to the heavy traffic.
> >
> > Though I am not sure about the credibility of the audio tape released in the
> > internet, till now, I have not found any denial from any of the persons
> > mentioned above. A feeble denial from NDTV was seen. They have also not
> > categorically denied the conversation. They have only said, "NDTV believes
> > the magazine should first verify and corroborate facts before participating
> > in a defamatory smear campaign". In response to NDTV, Open Magazine has
> > confirmed the credibility of the audio in the facebook.
> >
> > I am yet to see any quick denial from Vir Singvi, Ratan Tata and A Raja for
> > this audio. I wish and pray that this audio should not be true. If it is
> > true, it is most unfortunate in the history of India. Ratan Tata's image is
> > also at stake. A common man can raise the doubt as to why Tata Group speaks
> > more of moral values and ethics outside, but engages an unethical tainted
> > professional. This applies to CII also. Was there any illegal benefit
> > derived to their organisation, through her. More transparency is needed.
> >
> > In chasing the money and power, we should not give up the values and
> > ethics. When we compromise our values and ethics, definitely, one day, the
> > concerned persons may have to answer to the society, at the cost of
> > reputation.
> >
> > I welcome the views of the members.
> >
> > Srinivasan
> > Prime Point
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Narendran A <naren_vna@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Frineds
> > >
> > > THis is pretty interesting topic. I heard the telephonic conversation
> > > between Nira and politicians in DMK. It doesnt seem to be a PR mans job. She
> > > is taking PR route to enter political circle. To me lobbying is a highly
> > > inttelectual job. Before taking up an assignment i will study the pros and
> > > con. If it adds value to the society, i will lobby or else, keep away from
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Let PR people not go with the bad elements.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Narren
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* Shivshankar Surkund <snsurkund@>
> > > *To:* prpoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Fri, November 19, 2010 9:07:33 AM
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Re: [prpoint] Debate: Why blame only politicians? What about
> > > officials, corporates and lobbyists?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I fully endorse views of hriNarendra-ji. Is CBI not corrupt ? A very senior
> > > executive of a Public sector Bank, was victim of internal politics,who USED
> > > CBI and an enquiry was converted into court case. After 24 years, the court
> > > found him innocent. Now who will punish CBI ? The concerned official lost
> > > his chnce of becomming CMD. Now he has no platform to get justice.
> > >
> > > Similarly, as right observed by shri Narendra-ji, what happened in the case
> > > of 'sukh-ram' or many other such corruption cases ?
> > >
> > > Unless the judiciary is too accountable for delays, nothing will move or
> > > the culprits will go scot free. Politicians with murder cases against them
> > > in court, become CMs ? this is India - that is Bharat ?
> > >
> > > s.n.surkund
> > > --- On *Thu, 11/18/10, S. Narendra <sunarendra@>* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: S. Narendra <sunarendra@>
> > > Subject: Re: [prpoint] Debate: Why blame only politicians? What about
> > > officials, corporates and lobbyists?
> > > To: prpoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 7:15 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Friends: How do you rescue reputation of PR from the Telecom scandal?
> > > My second mail had brought out this aspect,in response to a mail asking
> > > seniors to use PR to fight corruption.
> > > It is being used as a mask by corporates and PR firms are very willing to
> > > play that role.Yesterday Times News channel fielded Vinod Mehta and Suhel
> > > Seth.The latter wanted Lobbying to be made legal and said it is part of
> > > legitimate PR.where do you draw the line?
> > > Also we need to debate the mask Public Affairs provides to Lobbying.
> > > The media that is exposing corruption,PR profession,Bureaucracy,Chambers
> > > which criticism political corruption,along with various other institutions
> > > have got contaminated by greed.Thats becasue the price to be paid when
> > > discovered in corruption cases is very poor and slow and rehabilitation is
> > > easy.
> > > S.narendra
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 18 November 2010 10:08, Prime Point Srinivasan <prpoint@<http://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=prpoint@>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > dear friends
> > >
> > > When I started a debate two days back in prpoint group on the mega scam, we
> > > got more than 20 responses for that thread. All the responses were from
> > > senior members. I wish younger members also share their views, as they will
> > > be the future of our nation.
> > >
> > > From the earlier debate, I could see the concern of all the members for the
> > > nation and for the professional integrity. Almost all our members were
> > > blaming only politicians. Today, Times of India and other channels have
> > > brought out the un-holy nexus between the politicians, officials and the
> > > corporates through lobbyists. Even some of the senior bureaucrats are also
> > > involved in this mega scam.
> > >
> > > Media reports reveal the alleged role played by Nira Radia, a lobbyist and
> > > a PR professional in this mega scam. She seems to be under multi-agency
> > > investigation now. Times Now channel, tonight, was highly critical of PR
> > > profession itself. Few such professionals, have brought shame to the entire
> > > profession.
> > >
> > > When I visited her company site, (http://www.noesis.in/nira.htm), i found
> > > various companies of Tata Group, Kotak Mahendra, Confederation of Indian
> > > Industry and many more as her clients. She has also claimed in the site, "Under
> > > her direction the company has striven to enhance the value add to its
> > > clients and pioneered new areas of development".
> > >
> > > It is surprising that such reputed organisations like Tata Group, kotak and
> > > CII have continued to get her advices, even after her name was debated for
> > > her alleged involvement in the 2G scam in the Parliament, one year back.
> > > Their action may lead even the investigating agencies like CBI and ED to
> > > suspect those institutions also, whether they would have got any benefit
> > > through illegal ways through Nira Radia. Is it not the responsibilities of
> > > the corporates to engage consultants without blemish? It is ironical, that
> > > Mr Ratan Tata made a remark two days back, that somebody wanted 15 crores to
> > > give aviation license. On the other hand, Tata Group has engaged a person
> > > as a consultant, whose credentials are debated in Parliament.
> > >
> > > Politicians are alone not the culprits here. We need to blame the nexus
> > > between the officials, greedy corporates and the unprofessional lobbyists
> > > turned fixers.
> > >
> > > Probably, members may recall, that our October 2010 issue of ezine,
> > > PreSense, focussed on the 'Public Affairs' and we even went to the extent of
> > > suggesting formulation of code of ethics for such Public Affairs / Public
> > > Relations professionals, when they deal with the Government. Very sadly,
> > > when we sent mails to some CEOs who practise Public Affairs seeking their
> > > views, they did not even acknowledge our mails.
> > >
> > > It is also unfortunate, industry bodies likes CII, FICCI and NASSCOM have
> > > not come out openly against the scam. They are supposed to be neutral
> > > bodies, to protect the interest of the nation and the corporates. I am
> > > unable to understand their prolonged silence.
> > >
> > > When the PR profession itself is being debated in media in this scam, why
> > > none of the CEOs of the big PR / PA Agencies have come out openly condemning
> > > the unethical practises of the profession? Why none of them have appealed
> > > for ethical and value based profession? When they are doing image building
> > > for their clients, why they are not coming out openly, when the profession
> > > is suffering image crisis, due to a single individual?
> > >
> > > Even if one drop of poison falls in a pot of good milk, the entire milk
> > > becomes bad. Same way, because of the few people indulging in unethical,
> > > illegal practises, the PR / PA industry is being mistaken.
> > >
> > > Instead of curing the disease, we need to cure the symptoms. We need to
> > > identify such unethical professionals and isolate them. As I wrote in our
> > > earlier issue of ezine, we need to follow transparent, ethical and value
> > > based profession.
> > >
> > > I request members to share their views.
> > >
> > > Srinivasan
> > > Prime Point
> > > 91766 50273

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