PR discussions: Fw: Re: [prpoint] Debate: Sitting with crossed legs

CROSS LEGGED SITTING

There are two types of crossed legs while sitting. A foreigner's comment would have been about the cross legs while sitting on chair. But the second one is sitting cross legged on ground. The sitting may be on a specially made elevated seat cushioning with mat/deer skin/woollen piece of cloth etc., Sitting cross legged is observed in meditation, Yoga and while doing the pooja. There has been lot of significance attached as per shasraic discipline as well spiritual and medicinal science. In Gurukulas in the earlier centuries students and teacher sit in cross legs to learn the Veda chanting. Modern cross legged sitting on chairs many times indicate the arrogance, egoism etc., if the waving is started.

Let us respect the cross legged sitting posture of our traditional and ancient/old style.

P.B.Raghavendra Rao

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--- On Sat, 7/8/10, hari haran <hari3_haran2003@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: hari haran <hari3_haran2003@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [ gfpr ] [prpoint] Debate: Sitting with crossed legs - Is it a proper etiquette?
To: gfpr@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 2:00 PM

Dear all,

I don't totally agree with Ms. Uma Gopinath's observation of 'Respect angle'. Respect, like love, has to be conciously expressed in such manner that the other person perceives it. Not being disrespectful does not imply respect. For respect to be felt by the other person it has to be demonstrative. we have to go out of our normal way to show respect if it is to be felt by another. This must emanate effortlessly from within.

Showing the crossed leg toe to any one is a mark of disrespect and is an act of violence. Disrespect in any form is a greatest relationship destroyer as it is very difficult to foget and forgive an act of disrespect. Generally we consider disrespect to be wilful, even if sometimes they are not. That makes it all the more difficult to forgive. A careful play of words as an apology later may not heal the wounded heart. It is also pertinent to mention here that the right to forgive remains with the person who is hurt.

Regards

hariharan

--- On Fri, 6/8/10, centum advertising <centumads@gmail.com> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [ gfpr ] Re: [prpoint] Debate: Sitting with crossed legs - Is it a proper etiquette?
To: gfpr@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, 6 August, 2010, 6:01 PM

Men sitting cross legged specially in front of seniors is not only dis-respectful but also disdainful. Not only pointing toes towards the seniors but shaking legs or the toes is considered impudent and bad etiquette irrespective of the respect that one might have for the person.

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Rakesh Gulati

On 8/6/10, Bobby Shivyana <bobby.shivyana@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr Srinivasan,

Body language - gestures, postures, facial expressions etc - is an universal medium of communication, with a very few regional variations. It matters a lot and speak volumes in disciplined or uniformed services.

Not only legs-crossed, hands, shoulders. Shoulders bent inwards speaks something and daring the chest, be it a man or a woman, indicates some other thing.

Etiquette, Respect, Obedience have become things of the past. Can you see any youngster, these days, with a shirt having a pocket and a pen into that? In case you want them to note something, either you have to lend your pen so that they write on their palms or you should wait and waste your time till they note their stuff on their mobile. If you point it out, they will lecture you on 'save paper', 'environment', etc

True. Perhaps, we are wrong and outmoded. We have to go with the wind.

Regards,

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Dr Uma Bhushan <u_bhushan@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Mr Srinivasan,

This is a very interesting topic indeed. Looking at it from just the body language and etiquette point of view, men are not supposed to cross their legs at all. It is proper etiquette only for women to cross egs. There are different meanings attributed in the science of body language for where the cross is made - at the thigh or knees or ankles.

Regarding the respect angle - I think it is representative of Indian culture where the form is given more importance than the spirit. Respect also has to be earned and not demanded. Often in Indian culture, observance of the outward manifestations of respect is enough to get by without the need to carry respect in the heart.

Best regards,

Uma Gopinath Bhushan, Phd
Reader, Business Communication Area
K J Somaiya Institute of Mangement Studies & Research
Vidyavihar, Mumbai 400 077
(M) 09821766781

--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Prime Point Srinivasan <prpoint@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Prime Point Srinivasan <prpoint@gmail.com>
Subject: [prpoint] Debate: Sitting with crossed legs - Is it a proper etiquette?
To: "Prpoint Group" <prpoint@yahoogroups.com>, "Image Management group" <image_management@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 1:23 PM

Hi all

Yesterday, in the Business Communication session at Bharathiya Vidya Bhavan, we screened on Television interview. In one of the popular channels, a young lady interviewer interviewed a well known senior columnist and author of a book (lady) in English. Both of them were occupying the chair, kept opposite to each other in the studio. The interviewer lady was asking questions to the VIP with her legs crossed with her toes pointing towards the VIP. This is the situation.

After this video was screened, one of the participants raised a question about crossing legs, when a respectable and senior person is sitting opposite to you. In India, in Parliament and Legislative Assemblies, visitors cannot sit in the gallery with crossed legs, when the Speaker is present. Same way, in all the courts, public cannot sit with crossed legs, while the judge is present. Probably, this etiquette is also the practise in British Institutions.

Last year, when the octogenarian leader and Tamilnadu Chief Minister Karunanidhi visited Delhi, one of the young Congress leaders representing Sonia Gandhi and Dr Manmohan Singh met the Chief Minister at Tamizhnadu Bhavan. The seating arrangement was like 'L'. The Chief Minister was sitting in one Chair. The young leader was sitting in another Chair with crossed leg and toes pointing towards the Chief Minister. Next day, when the papers carried this photo, there was a big protest, as to how the young leader was 'disrespectful' to a Senior leader. Congress had to take some extra efforts to convince that it was not meant to disrespect the Chief Minister.

Again, the culture may be different from countries to country, state to state.

Can members share their views on this type of 'sitting with crossed legs' during formal meetings with seniors.

Srinivasan

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